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    I have a tree that we failed to remove the stabilizer ties from; when they were finally removed it required some bark removal...since then the leaves fell off and it went dormant. This spring it started to blossom and just this Monday it all shriveled...its an oak. Attaching some pics... Click image for larger version

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    I know some of you are experts and very much appreciate the input!
    If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties .... then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." --- JFK

  • #2
    I am by no means an expert. My 2 cents is to contact these guys:

    http://www.advancedtreecareinc.com/

    We have not had to use them, yet.

    Good luck!
    "Some people can read War & Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe". -Lex Luthor

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    • #3
      I'm thinking oak wilt - common in the cooler, wetter parts of the Spring. Beetles carry the disease from another infected tree and probably had easy access through the removed bark.

      I'm not an arborist (I'm just pretty good at trimming oaks) so I don't know if it's salvageable or not. Likely a goner, sadly. I've heard there are a few websites that you can submit photos for them to diagnose instead of an arborist house call expense.

      I'm a wait and see kind of guy - since I know many of these fungal diseases are not highly treatable. I'd leave it alone and see if it springs back. I did this with a tree 2 years ago - and it came back.

      Otherwise, depending on the height of the tree you're looking at $350 to $450 to remove it - and at least another $500 to plant a replacement. Wait until Fall though - now is not a good time to plant oaks.

      Keep us posted - let us know if the patient bounces back.
      Last edited by Texas Dream Cruise; 05-14-2014, 04:39 PM.
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      • #4
        Since you removed bark to get the tries out you want to seal up that opening to prevent diseases getting in. You can back the tree sealer at Lowes/Home Depot. We were told to use this from the tree people at Tree Farmer in Gunter when we trimmed branches off our trees.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Texas Dream Cruise View Post
          I'm thinking oak wilt - common in the cooler, wetter parts of the Spring. Beetles carry the disease from another infected tree and probably had easy access through the removed bark.

          I'm not an arborist (I'm just pretty good at trimming oaks) so I don't know if it's salvageable or not. Likely a goner, sadly. I've heard there are a few websites that you can submit photos for them to diagnose instead of an arborist house call expense.

          I'm a wait and see kind of guy - since I know many of these fungal diseases are not highly treatable. I'd leave it alone and see if it springs back. I did this with a tree 2 years ago - and it came back.

          Otherwise, depending on the height of the tree you're looking at $350 to $450 to remove it - and at least another $500 to plant a replacement. Wait until Fall though - now is not a good time to plant oaks.

          Keep us posted - let us know if the patient bounces back.
          I have two 8 year old oaks in my back yard. Both had oak wilt about this time last spring. I thought they were goners, but left them alone and hoped they would come back. I watered them every other day and they did seem to bounce back a little, but by the end of the summer they still had brown leaves - probably about 30-40 percent. I was fully prepared to replace them if wilt was still present this spring, but they have come full circle and are as robust and green as can be. Can't figure out how or why - just glad I didn't give up on them.

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          • #6
            It looks like you successfully girdled it, but as others have said either wait and see or get a pro out there.

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            • #7
              I recommend Total tree and Landscape

              http://www.totaltreeandlandscape.com/

              I had these guys out yesterday to remove two wax mrytles in my flower beds ( miserable tree, but that is for another thread) they did a great job and they were very easy to deal with. I would absolutely call and tree specialist and get their input.

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              • #8
                Called yesterday on Rawhide's recommendation- scheduled for next Tuesday...fingers crossed! Will update after they give me the diagnosis.

                Appreciate the responses!!!
                If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties .... then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." --- JFK

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                • #9
                  I don't think even an expert will know for sure. I'd just wait it out. Because the outer bark had grown over the wire, you probably should have just cut the wire to release the pressure and left the wire in there to allow the tree to overgrow new bark. The outer bark is the lifeblood of the tree, but you would be surprised how resilient an established tree can be.

                  For the rest of you folks - get the supports off of any tree over 6 months old, they no longer need them.

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                  • #10
                    I agree about removing the supports. Many in our neighborhood have trees over 5 years old with them still on. Also I've heard you shouldn't seal up the openings. I know years ago that was recommended, but not any more.

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                    • #11
                      My concern with the wait and see approach is linked to the storms we get here in Texas, and the higher sustained winds.

                      If the trees are dying and the root system is dying, a thunderstorm and winds will more than likely blow it over. Where it falls, it falls.
                      Last edited by rawhide; 05-16-2014, 09:03 AM.
                      "Some people can read War & Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe". -Lex Luthor

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                      • #12
                        Tree troubleshooting:

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo78qm8k2LY

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                        • #13
                          You have a chance it will live. Had a similiar issue with a Crape Mrytle. Larger branches grew around and sealed around the support. Was able to cut the line and pull it through. The tree eventually "swallowed up" the hole as it grew.

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                          • #14
                            Thanks to all!! I was hoping for a 'Miracle Max' to tell me it is only 'mostly dead'....but alas! the Arborist pronounced it dead ....the only salvo he gave me was that as it grew more it would have contended with the other trees in the front yard so he felt it was best in the long run to not plant another large tree in that spot... btw, the video was too funny!!
                            If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties .... then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." --- JFK

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mommy22 View Post
                              Thanks to all!! I was hoping for a 'Miracle Max' to tell me it is only 'mostly dead'....but alas! the Arborist pronounced it dead ....the only salvo he gave me was that as it grew more it would have contended with the other trees in the front yard so he felt it was best in the long run to not plant another large tree in that spot... btw, the video was too funny!!
                              Can you share any of the unusual things happened before it all started or some other abnormal things you noticed during all this process? A few points would be helpful

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