Lemon Bar?

[BaylorBear]

Any idea when/if this place will open. Another abandoned opportunity?

[Sticky Davis]

In my few conversations with the owners - and future dates that they've thrown around and reasons for delays - there is a very good chance that it will never happen IMHO.

But on the other hand, it looks like the coffee shop that was discussed a year ago for that building is finally moving forward.

(Still would like to see the Lemon Bar eventually as well - the one in Uptown is pretty cool...)

[BaylorBear]

Thanks for the update. Hopefully we'll see something successful there soon.

[Upper Decker]

I wonder if its the guy's from "The Blind Lemon" getting older wanting something casual? Great bar at one time!

[p3pilot]

Looks like they recently put up signs on the doors about hiring.

Maybe they actually will open up. I sure hope so.

[TexasLover]

hopefully it will not be a bust that the area around Frisco square caused. Lochranns was a fantastic place to go listen to live music, get good music and drinks, but Frisco Square ran them out due to overly high pricing for space.

If you look in the Dallas Observer, the top bands in the city would come play weekly at Lochranns for free. Now I have to pay $15 - $30 to watch those bands play in deep ellum. One of those bands was also voted best band at south by southwest in Austin.

Lemon Bar would be a great addition, but from investors and owners I know in the square area... it is nearly impossible and not feasible to pay what they are asking for the space.

I do hope it works out. I need a good place to go for drinks and a social time.

[Eagle_rc]

Originally Posted by Sticky Davis

In my few conversations with the owners - and future dates that they've thrown around and reasons for delays - there is a very good chance that it will never happen IMHO.

But on the other hand, it looks like the coffee shop that was discussed a year ago for that building is finally moving forward.

(Still would like to see the Lemon Bar eventually as well - the one in Uptown is pretty cool...)

Sticky,
Are any of the reasons tied to the lack of late nite alcohol or special use permit?


Thanks

[jrjazzman]

Originally Posted by TexasLover

Lemon Bar would be a great addition, but from investors and owners I know in the square area... it is nearly impossible and not feasible to pay what they are asking for the space.

If rates are too high, the landlord won't get tenants and will go out of business. More likely, rates will adjust to what the market will bear.

[mikel]

Originally Posted by jrjazzman

If rates are too high, the landlord won't get tenants and will go out of business. More likely, rates will adjust to what the market will bear.

Until the new 60M new mixed development goes in, there may simply not be enough foot traffic or parking at Frisco Square to sustain any desired level for either party. But because the landlord has the sunk cost, the tenants can and will move on. That why some places you see have such high vacancy rates.

[Sticky Davis]

Originally Posted by Eagle_rc

Sticky,
Are any of the reasons tied to the lack of late nite alcohol or special use permit?


Thanks

Eagle_rc, from what I understand, the Frisco Lemon Bar is jointly owned with the World Cup Plaza landlords. I'm thinking the delays in opening the bar have only been cash flow related in finshing the build-out using their own funds. And the banks won't finance big build-out money if your building is below certain occupancy levels. The landlords lost a ton on the previous bar (Scores) at that location and have been sitting on a lot of vacant office space in the World Cup Plaza buildings going back about 5 years now.

But they've turned the corner just recently with a record amount of new office space leased (plus the coffee shop.) Congrats to them! The overall shortage of office space in Frisco has played well into their hands - so I'm assuming they now have the cash to move full speed ahead with the Frisco Lemon Bar since they're starting to hire.

Just speculation - but probably nothing to do with late night hours. Looking forward to this place