Ancient competitors of the Jews, current research & photos

[penguin]

And why the Jews survived, and their competitors, the Samaritans, mostly didn't....

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...827144,00.html



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[Nelson]

For some odd reason reading a GERMAN magazine talking about why the Jews survived strikes me as very creepy.

We survived you murderous animals, that should be answer enough to your question, Das Spiegel.

[penguin]

It takes about the time necessary for the offending and the offended generations to die off before the past can be put to rest. This country celebrated Evacuation Day every November for a century (after the British were forced out of New York) until Lincoln replaced it with Thanksgiving on about the same day. We hated them for the way they had starved, abused, and sometimes slaughtered our POWs (some 16,000 or so) in New York Harbor prison ships. A lot of Brits at the time were equally as disgusted. We did everything possible to erase British ways of doing nearly everything (good and bad) from our ways. Eventually later generations on both sides could be friends again.

A good friend of mine, born in Berlin a couple of years after WWII ended, eventually worked as a Russian language translator for our CIA there. She is today every bit as disgusted with the Nazi history as the rest of us. I've met a few Jews who refuse to eat any German cooking. I also knew some American GIs (veterans of the Pacific campaign) who refused to buy Japanese products, cars, stereos, etc made in Japan during their lifetime. It takes some people longer than others to back off from blaming generations not born yet during the times of atrocity for the sins of their ancestors.



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[Mister_Beef]

Originally Posted by El Burro Loco

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You know Nelson, not all Germans were or are card-carrying Nazis...

More hate-speech from Nelson. There is no place for that level of hatrid on FOL.

[penguin]

per Mister_Beef:
"More hate-speech from Nelson. ..."

If you're going to trash Nelson, who I believe is an honorable fellow, at least have the decency to let him know you're also trashing him behind his back over in TAT in a thread where he is not posting, and may well not be reading, in your post #28:

http://www.frisco-online.com/forums/...d.php?t=803073

I know nothing of the merits, or lack thereof, about your dispute, but I do know that nobody respects a sneak.



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[Nelson]

Originally Posted by penguin

per Mister_Beef:
"More hate-speech from Nelson. ..."

If you're going to trash Nelson, who I believe is an honorable fellow, at least have the decency to let him know you're also trashing him behind his back over in TAT in a thread where he is not posting, and may well not be reading, in your post #28:

http://www.frisco-online.com/forums/...d.php?t=803073

I know nothing of the merits, or lack thereof, about your dispute, but I do know that nobody respects a sneak.



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Thanks penguin. Coinsidering the source, I don't even want to waste my time replying to this guy. Like all trolls, if we ignore him he'll disapear.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by El Burro Loco

Holy cow. And this from the guy who supports the current genocide against the unborn.

You know Nelson, not all Germans were or are card-carrying Nazis...

You actually have no idea what my beliefs in regard to abortion are. When you went off on me years ago about this subject, it was after I applauded a person who was pro-choice but had said that she wished there would never be another abortion.

I have always avoided discussing this topic, it is far more divisive than any other topic I can think of. To me it is the 21st century equivalent of the 19th century discussions on emancipation, and can easily do as much harm to our society.

You took my comments as proof of my beliefs and ran with them from there.

I could take your current comments on this thread as proof that you saw nothing wrong with what the Germans did to the Jews, you know the "we were only following orders" defence, but we really didn't like the orders.

[Mister_Beef]

Originally Posted by Nelson

For some odd reason reading a GERMAN magazine talking about why the Jews survived strikes me as very creepy.

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This is like saying all citizens of the United States are Democrats. You make wide sweepinmg, hateful claims and then defend yourself by calling me names. You should be a shamed and until your whining gets me removed, I will not go away and I will prove that you are the liar that you are.

[Mister_Beef]

Originally Posted by El Burro Loco

You're lucky that the mods here play favorites, most others would have been banned immediately for that level of hate-filled vitriol.

I could not agree more

[bizguy]