Latest Lead monitoring for Frisco

[Informed citizen]

Originally Posted by bizguy

oh goody.... uninformed is back... sad part is that occasionally you bring up a good point just to have it lost in your emotional handwringing...

personally, I think it probably would be appropriate to put a few more monitoring stations around, but do understand that they monitoring stations are placed where they are since that is the direction of the wind about 90+% of the time....

Wrong again- it is only 60-70% of the time that the wind blows towards the monitors. I have done all the research but will save the "good stuff" for the EPA. TCEQ and the open house. Do you mind me calling you BUZZ guy? You gotta have high lead levels or to keep fighting for Exide to stay in Frisco.

[friscomatt]

Originally Posted by Informed citizen

Wrong again- it is only 60-70% of the time that the wind blows towards the monitors. I have done all the research but will save the "good stuff" for the EPA. TCEQ and the open house. Do you mind me calling you BUZZ guy? You gotta have high lead levels or to keep fighting for Exide to stay in Frisco.

I might go just to see your research, might be entertaining like a elementary school science fair

[bizguy]

let me reply to both of your posts in this one o' uninformed one...

1. - this isn't California - if you want CA, then move there, but I am sick to death of all your Californians moving here with your failed politics after destroying that beautiful state - if you liked it stay there, even if your job had to go away due to leftist politics....

2. I am sorry for all you folks whose kids have autism or ADHD or that stuff - but Exide did not cause it. Chances are far greater that it results from deciding to wait to have kids until you were almost 40. I can guarantee you there is more scientific evidence of that than it being caused by Exide.


But hey, go ahead and clench your fists and scream "OMG, think of the children!!!" if it makes you feel better, but we are still waiting on you to produce any evidence that anybody has been harmed by the plant in the last 40 years....

[Informed citizen]

Originally Posted by friscomatt

No one can guarantee that you won't get hit by a falling tree while you're walking down the sidewalk. Lead smelters have been around for MANY decades...still have yet to hear of a case of two headed blind autistic children running around with a guaranteed link to a lead smelter.

Maybe we should set up a few monitoring stations around other buildings in Frisco that are emitting a lot of hot air...like City Hall.

You might have missed this article posted about the first of its kind, settlement in which lawyers proved their case against the harmful effects of lead imposed on 16 children living near a lead smelter plant. Lead is lead, arsenic is arsenic- it's all the same whether in St Louis or in Frisco. Lawsuit from the harmful effects of lead are springing up. Look them up there are plenty against Exide. Someone argued that Doe Run is NOT Frisco. Are you sure??? I am sure that we have children being harmed as we debate this. Even though the Doe Run smelter has to pay damages- to this day they are still operating, still harming. It is hard to prove they caused harm and even harder to shut them down. I posted an article about how the monitoring (or lack of it) has let down many communities with lead smelters. Exide and Texas laws have failed to keep us safe. Frisco Exide is the 3rd dirtiest operating plant in the U.S. They used a non- hazardous class 2 landfill permit to bury HAZARDOUS waste and to this day could be in violation. Who's been checking and following up. Buzz guy said Exide has a follow up inspection report- I cannot find it on TCEQ or EPA web sites. Please post it here for those that want to know what the heck is going on. I think it is business as usual and no report exists to the public yet.



http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/m...5ad255cfa.html

[friscomatt]

Originally Posted by Informed citizen

You might have missed this article posted about the first of its kind, settlement in which lawyers proved their case against the harmful effects of lead imposed on 16 children living near a lead smelter plant.

Are you out of your mind...a SETTLEMENT means that they didn't prove A SINGLE THING. A settlement is just that, a settlement.

[lucas mccain]

Originally Posted by friscomatt

No one can guarantee that you won't get hit by a falling tree while you're walking down the sidewalk. Lead smelters have been around for MANY decades...still have yet to hear of a case of two headed blind autistic children running around with a guaranteed link to a lead smelter.

Well as soon as there becomes an irresponsible tree limb cutting service that endangers the public at large through their negligence after repeated violations, then we all can take steps to rectify the issue. In the meantime, if you base your position on evidence of two headed blind autistic children then you may need to pay closer attention to the ongoing findings of lead exposure.

What is the benefit of this particular industry existing in Frisco?
Is it really worth it?

[lucas mccain]

Originally Posted by friscomatt

Are you out of your mind...a SETTLEMENT means that they didn't prove A SINGLE THING. A settlement is just that, a settlement.

Surely you jest.

[friscomatt]

Originally Posted by lucas mccain

What is the benefit of this particular industry existing in Frisco?
Is it really worth it?

Is that a serious statement? If it were then we would need to get rid of all fast food establishments in Frisco...and many other establishments. Are they really "worth it"?
One could easily find more links to heath problems related to McDonald's than they can to Exide.

[friscomatt]

Originally Posted by lucas mccain

Surely you jest.

Do you really know what a settlement is? Yes, everyone knows if a lawyer wins a settlement that means that they must have been right. How absurd and naive.

[lucas mccain]

Originally Posted by friscomatt

Is that a serious statement? If it were then we would need to get rid of all fast food establishments in Frisco...and many other establishments. Are they really "worth it"?
One could easily find more links to heath problems related to McDonald's than they can to Exide.

I've never experienced a fast food restaurant forcing me to eat their food.